Idaho’s Election Losses, Dairy Money & Micron Tax Breaks

Bob Neugebauer Welcome to the Idaho Pulse. This is your host, Tea Party, Bob. And today we have a special guest, Kurt Hostetler, who is a representative of the district twenty four in the Magic Valley. Clint, formerly of California, attended California University in Sacramento, earning his bachelor’s degree in two thousand and seven. We consider Clint as amongst the most conservative representatives in Idaho’s legislature. Today we are going to be discussing the elections and what has been happening and affecting you and your families in the Gem State. So let me welcome Clint to the Idaho Pulse, and thank you very much for joining us today.

Clint Hostetler Well, thank you for having me. It’s a pleasure and an honor. And, um, I just really appreciate the opportunity. And more importantly, what a sparkling intro. Uh, one of the most conservative in the state. I, I appreciate that even more as that is pretty much what I’ve aspired to do is, just remind people what true conservatism. Conservatism is and, you know, trudge back in the direction of re co-opting what conservatism is in our state, reminding people what made our nation great and our small businesses and families secure and safe and really our communities, a great place to raise families and work. So, uh, to me, to have the moniker of a conservative, uh, legitimate one here in our state is, is, is a great honor. So thank you. And I appreciate the time once again, gentlemen.

Bob Neugebauer Well, I will tell you, I spent many years down at the state legislature arguing, complaining, testifying, uh, and who knows what all usually just getting tickets on my truck outside for, uh, you know, for being there. Um, but I certainly know who the, uh, the real people are in the legislature because I’ve seen so many go by the wayside. Uh, unfortunately, I think most of that was a factor of seven hundred lobbyists that we have down at the legislature, uh, who like to fatten up our older people, uh, which I’ve been observing for the last twenty years. So it’s nice to have a fresh face. It’s nice to have some, uh, fresh ideas. Uh, and somebody who’s looking at things from the same viewpoint that, uh, that we basically look at them from, um, I’d like to get to, uh, the first thing on the agenda, which is the elections that took place in, uh, in Idaho. And the fact that we now see that we have more Democrats in the legislature, although not a real significant amount, it’s significant to me in the fact that they even won any seats. But it looks like we have four counties that have basically, uh, turned to that color of purple or blue. And, uh, I, I get concerned about that as I have been concerned, uh, as much about the, uh, the cronies who have been in the legislature for way too long. So I kind of like to get your opinion on where we are, where you see us going and, uh, what the temperament and tempo is of our current legislature.

Clint Hostetler Well, I will say right off the bat, it’s been a very overwhelming two years from someone who never anticipated getting into politics. Uh, never obviously desired that. Um, but, you know, getting here about five and a half years ago out of a once great conservative bastion in California and really starting to see, you know, I use this, I use this, um, illustration when we moved here five and a half years ago, it felt like we were moving back in time into traditional Americana, you know, true conservative values. And then of course, after that, uh, you know, the, the midday sun of, of conservative America. And then of course, after that, Hayes wore off within two years, I, I realized we weren’t in the midday sun. We were actually in the twilight. And the things I’d seen decades ago in California were happening here at a. Really a rapidly advancing pace. And what we’re seeing that across all the conservative states. And so getting involved, I was able to meet our great Senator Zidoval and a few others. Um, and just started having conversations. And I was asked by an older gal in our church that we were attending. We just, you know, switched to this church in a sweet older gal. We were talking politics and she asked me to go think about becoming a PC. And, you know, I didn’t know what a PC was, and I didn’t want to disappoint this sweet old gal in our church, so I obliged, went to this meeting, met Senator Zuiderveld and Senator Cole and some others and saw, wow, there are some some solid conservative soldiers here fighting to correct that needle and move it back in the right direction. And after a few conversations, I was asked, would you step in? Would you pray and consider running for office? we need some solid Christian conservative men. Right? And now that statement may offend some people, but I, I don’t I don’t care. But, um, you know, so went home, expected my wife to shoot that down. I’m the sole provider here. She’s left her career years ago in California, homeschool her son and we maintain that here and expected her to give me all the voices of reason, explanations that she always does. If I want to buy something or do something foolish. But she said, yeah, we should pray about that. Got all green lights, got into it. And getting back to your question, thanks for letting me set the context there. Um, just realize that once I got up there that, you know, I hate to say it, um, we’re in, we’re in trouble here in Idaho and it’s everything I talked about, you know, uh, what I’ve witnessed over my forty eight years mainly paying attention or being awake to the political realm back in California. And then, of course, trance translating that here in office. It was a it was as they. They all all say, drinking from a fire hose. But seeing how the mechanism and the machine moves forward while we continue to get, you know, a, um, a plethora of peripheral shows, right, grandstanding, virtue signaling and all this. And, and so it’s, it’s been a little discouraging to see what hasn’t passed. But at the same time, very encouraging to see that there are some great legislators working hard, uh, pushing good legislation. They understand what’s on the line and what’s at stake for our children and the future of our state, our economic security, etc., etc., our states rights, our liberties. And, and they’re pushing hard. But once again, just like we see at the national level, there’s, there’s a swamp everywhere you go. It’s by design. We have many top down issues that are pumped from the federal government that dictate how we operate here. And so we are really pushing through the muck and mire, and it’s going to be a long road back, and it’s going to take a lot of, uh, being more than informed by the people it’s going to take being educated and vigilant and diligent as our forefathers, you know, warned us about to preserve this republic and our, let alone our states rights. And so, um, you know, these most recent elections, and I’m going to say something that may disturb a lot of people. And I’ve offended somebody recently with this comment and I, I did not mean to do that. It was a, a great legislator who lost their position, who I loved as a person was offended by it. And I said, I look at it in three ways and I’ll land this plane for you here so you don’t have to keep listening to me ramble. These elections, I think, one, they’re going to give a much needed wake up call to Idaho as we watch the national results roll in Tuesday. And that’s a whole nother discussion. Uh, or I should say Wednesday, really. And, um, and, and beyond. It’s a warning to Idaho. We did not lose enough to where we can’t go back. We all know once you turn blue, it’s essentially impossible these days to come back, because there’s a lot of institutions and systems that become compromised, and you can never recapture that. And so, one, it’s a wake up call with enough time for Idahoans and many political refugees like myself to for the haze to wear off to get there, grounding, grounding and bearings and say, whoa, I don’t want to go back to the state I moved from. So let’s get involved. Let’s do something about it. Two, it makes us now aware of those new votes that we have, that we know how they’re going to land, right? They’re marginalized, for the most part with the rest of the left in our legislature. And three, the part that seems to offend some people is this is going to be a purifying process for the GOP, and I’ll let people decipher that how they will. So I’m a little encouraged, even though it seems like we took some big losses. Prop one to me, going down in flames was the biggest blessing for us. And, um, and I’m encouraged moving forward that this will engage people back to where we need to be. The times of apathy and complacency are gone.

Bob Neugebauer You know, when you go back to the original election, when Trump was being elected, I found it very interesting that, uh, the primary, uh, elections when we had the voting, it was, uh, not Trump who got the nod. It was one of our Texas congressman, excuse me, one of our Texas senators who actually got the nod. And I find that to be interesting because he is much more liberal. I find most Idahoans, with the exception of the new entrants over the last two or three years, are very liberal in their thinking process. And that has been one of the problems here. Um, liberalism, as far as I’m concerned, is good up to a point. But then there are times when you have to sit down and think about what are you really doing here? Are you moving to the left? Are you moving to the right? And the problem is, is that you’ve got this push by the left. That’s been so hard that I think it has changed a lot of the thought process of many of those who have been here for a long time. Not so much in the rural areas, but pretty much in the, uh, the more populated areas, the Meridian and Boise and Nampa.

Clint Hostetler Yeah, I, I agree. I mean, there’s three things in play here, right? We are watching a cultural wave take over our nation. It’s happening through the institutions, as I’ve said ad nauseam through my campaign that all of our institutions have been captured. Right? We can look at ideological subversion, which Yuri Bezmenov talked about years ago in his ironically, uh, nineteen eighty four interview. And he talks about what Marxist nations do to take over other, other nations. Right. And so what we have now is a cultural issue. And it’s, it’s, it’s happening. And whether people like it or not, the moment they turn on their social media, they go to academia, they turn on the media, whatever it is, they watch their shows or sitcoms, their news, they are being ingrained with this. And I, I hate to even use the term progressive ideology. Um, because I believe the classic liberal and I’ll use JFK as one of the better examples. The classic liberal and the modern conservative now are, are essentially almost one entity, but it’s this radical wave of leftism, extremist leftism, right? The progressive movement, that’s really what you’re talking about referring to. Um, so really we have to once again, one ideology that he talked about and we know always happens is the enemy always co-opts terms, right? He counterfeits co-ops, he markets packages and weaponizes terms. And so whether it’s love or tolerance or, or, you know, you you name the term these days, the same thing has happened with conservatism without a lot of people knowing it here in Idaho. And one of the examples I give is when I went out to, um, a campaign for my first term, I, I knocked on so many doors because, you know, I heard, oh, you know, eighty percent, if we’re all in agreement on eighty percent, we’re in the big tent. And Reagan was about a big tent. And so I went out knocking on these doors and I talked to people and they’d say, well, I’m a middle of the road Republican, or I’m a moderate Republican, or I’m a Reagan Republican, or I’m a classic Idaho. I mean, I, I did not understand how many shades of republicanism there was on the spectrum. And so I’d, I’d ask them all, well, what does that mean? What do you mean by that? And they could never give me a sound answer. Right. I get like, well, I’m not a J or I’m not a Trumper. I’m not an anti-vaxxer, if that’s what you mean. All these weird things. And I had one gentleman, I delved in a little bit more because I was trying to be very delicate. And I said, can you give me more information? And he’d say, well, I’m a social liberal and I’m a fiscal conservative. We’ve all heard that statement. And I say, well, sir, don’t you realize that social liberalism always devours fiscal conservatism? It happens all the time. So with this slow fade, you end up with this radical liberalism that manifests itself through the state and government being our God and the final arbiter of morals and laws and and really our end all, be all. And so that was when I started saying, well, what do I believe is a true conservative? At that time, my opponent, Janelle Dixon, was running on all her signs, said a conservative Republican. Well, I looked at her record and she aligned with most of the Democrats back in California that I left with right mask mandates, vaccine mandates, welfare for illegals. I could go on and on and on every spending bill she signed off on. And I’m like, this is this is insane. Is this what people believe as conservatism is? So I started developing my platform and I said, what is true conservatism? And I tell these people, I say, well, here’s what I believe is a true conservative or a traditional conservative. I believe in constitutional and individual liberties. I believe in family values and protecting our children. I believe in smaller, accountable, transparent and fiscally restrained government, lower taxes and true free market principles. And it was when I’d say that people would say, yeah, I agree. And I’d never ask, well, why couldn’t you elaborate that? Because people don’t know what they believe or why they believe it anymore. And I believe getting back to my statement about being inundated with this progressivism that is that is completely, uh, occupied our nation and its institutions. We are now in a time where folks are so busy trying to pay the bills, get their kids to church or sports or whatever it is, you know, survive that we are no longer able to parse through the propaganda and understand. And of course, we’ve got academia that doesn’t teach the history, the fundamentals of our Constitution and what it means to be an American citizen. ET cetera. ET cetera.

Bob Neugebauer Well, I’ve always been of the opinion and still am of the opinion that starting back in the nineteen sixties, when many of the social programs started with our good friend Lyndon Baines Johnson, um, we started to make the turn. And it started in the education process. Uh, as I, I see a curriculum that came in that, as you said, never really taught the important things that children need to learn. And it started in grade schools and perpetrated itself right into the junior college and the college scenario. And nowadays you’re looking at up to eighty and ninety percent of the professors in these Ivy League schools and in these large universities, they are liberal. They send their money to the Democrats. So there has been a division that’s taken place for almost three generations. And as one Soviet spy once said, that they would change us. But it will take three generations. We’re here today talking about this because this is the third generation.

Clint Hostetler Absolutely. And those same professors and teachers that have inundated the institutions, you know, one, they they implemented right at I can’t remember if it was from Saul Alinsky or somebody, you know, they they implemented the technique. If you cannot, uh, permeate society with your ideologies, you now play the victim card. And of course, we’re a moral society. We want to protect victims. And we’ve seen that time and time again with identity politics, how that victim card then allows you to perpetuate, uh, with impunity, uh, the, you know, your poisonous doctrine. And, and if anybody comes against it, you label them this, that, or the other, a fascist or a racist or a sexist or a homophobe, whatever it is, you pick your, your poison and, and that’s what’s happening now. You’ve got those same people that now, you know, you poll most of the the Democrats in our nation are a vast majority, I should say. They they favor socialism. And so we’re not just to the liberal, right. Even Bill Clinton to some extent, when he worked with Newt Gingrich’s Republican led Congress, got well, form reform through. And, uh, what did it do? It lifted women and minorities off of the, the, the dole and gave them a better life. And, you know, there was still the ability to work together, understand the economics, right? Uh, economics are no longer discussed from the left. And they haven’t been for, I don’t know how long. Right. It’s all social identity politics that seeks to divide and conquer, right? Divided. We all know we fall. And so identity politics is such a relevant issue. Fomenting these these back and forths and these feuds between different classes or races and now genders. And so it’s really been to the detriment. So now our professors and these are are now funneling those monies and, and perpetuating these ideologies that are these radical Marxist or Bolshevik or whatever you want to say. Um, into the youth and the youth. We don’t have ability. I mean, our school books, who are they written by? The institution who dictates look at the NEA. I mean, look at our media. We’ve had the NEA, we’ve got our media saying for years that children don’t belong to their parents anymore. They belong to the state. I mean, this is just straight out of Mao or Lenin or Stalin’s playbook.

Bob Neugebauer Well, I think you’re absolutely right. And and I think the, uh, I think the last generation, uh, has been the real guinea pigs in terms of the education process because they took the brunt. We no longer teach history as it really is. We no longer teach economics as it really is. And Western civilization has been thrown by the wayside. So they have nothing to stand on. They have no foundation. Aside from maybe reading the Constitution. But I will tell you, I will bet you a dime to a donut that most school today do not even make them read the Constitution, nor the Declaration of Independence. Which puts you into a whole different schism. Why do you think we had thirty to forty percent of those age nineteen to thirty switch in this last election and go for the Democrats? Those were males. They are just pretty much fresh out of school in many cases. So it tells me a story that I’ve been talking about for years.

Clint Hostetler Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly again. And it’s all by design, right? Us. You mentioned Western nations, what we know, Western nations, Christendom, whatever we want to call it. Uh, you know, these foundations of law order, um, you know, everything that America has been built off of, they have to destroy Western nations. We see Europe’s gone, right? I mean, and we’d be naive if we could. We did not cite the the, the ruling, you know, elite that really dictate Western policy. You could talk about Council on Foreign Relations. You could talk about the World Economic Forum that goes back to, uh, Club of Rome. I mean, but there’s documents out about, you know, uh, population replacement migration and everything we’re witnessing that has happened and has taken over in Europe is now beginning here. Uh, of course we don’t deal with the Africans and really the Muslim nations. We deal with South America and Mexico and granted, people say, oh, racism, here we go. Well, no, it’s it’s about preserving culture. Sovereign nations rely on laws and borders. And within those laws and borders, you have a culture, right? We are we’re not an economic zone. And, and we’re seeing that we’re being quickly turned into an economic zone, uh, this very globalist mentality. And really the, the main crux and the main agenda is to erode our culture, to really accept tyranny at the end of the day. And there’s a great, uh, a great website and a group called the Academy of Ideas. And I watched, I remember watching a dissertation or a thesis or reading it and, and watching a correlating video where it talked about through trauma based mind control and all these ratchet style government, um, uh, problem reaction solution type issues, whether it’s recessions or, um, you know, all the chaos that, uh, is talked about, whether it’s Covid and some of these other things and wars, you know, we’re being demoralized to the point where we’re we’re going to get to a point where we beg for tyranny. Just give us peace, right? We just want peace and safety. We want stability. And really, the the architects of this have been very successful through our institutions, a slow, deliberate process, centuries in the making to destroy America. Now, granite coming from that nineteen eighty four, uh, interview with Yuri Bezmenov. I mean, at that point, we were pretty much done. Um, we just didn’t see it yet. But at the same point, America is strong. We have a moral foundation. We’ve got those guiding principles, and it has been a longer, harder, arduous process for them. But we’re starting to see this turn. But that is why states rights matter so much. Federalism has to be eradicated for their final agenda. Right. And so you saw through the past twenty years, you know, D a s and all these, uh, relevant people being funneled money by George Soros and others of the likes to get them into these positions to continue the chaos and and really the lawlessness that’s breaking us apart. Uh, Western nation now hinges upon the survival of America. And really now I can say the idea or the concept of what America was and can still be, possibly. But saving our states are the crucial aspect. And, and so a lot of people ask me my thoughts on the nation and, and I know this is frustrating and hard for many people. I believe nationally we’re dead. We’re watching rigor mortis set in. We’re given a show in the meantime, right? The old bread and circuses. And that’s why it’s ever so crucial. I focus on Idaho and the issues here to try and roll back federal governments in our, in, in our, um, their activity within our state and preserve our state sovereignty. Now that’s a whole nother issue as we look at our fifty percent almost of our budget coming from federal dollars, how they have a control over our health and welfare, our education, these two biggest budgets and how they control the people the most. We are at that crossroads where it’s it’s now has to be a sense of urgency for every Idaho citizen, because we’re the last stand in America. And every other red state that’s still preserved will say the same thing. But this concept is the same.

Bob Neugebauer Well, I look at your knowledge of Yuri Brezhnev, and you’re probably one of the few people who have actually read that interview that he made. Um, aside from myself, because most people have no clue as to what’s been happening, uh, in this country. And, you know, knowledge is power. There’s no question about it. And as, uh, my motto is silence is consent. And that’s what we have had a lot of silence. Uh, it’s time that if we don’t rise up now and say, enough’s enough, uh, it will be. And we will see the demise of this great Civilization that we have built in America. And while I will probably not be around to see it since I’m eighty one at the current time, um, my children and my great grandchildren will be around to see it. And that’s what worries me more than anything. So here I am trying to, uh, get the word out that we’ve got a serious problem. And it’s not just in the country, but it comes right down to the state level. And if people don’t see that, they are totally blind. I had somebody this morning on the radio telling me that Idaho has no debt. Well, I have to ask myself, well, where did he get that from? When indeed we are three point six billion dollars in debt. How do you think we’re building these roads and highways out there and fixing the fifteen hundred bridges that have to be fixed? You don’t have the income to do that. And the fact that our budget has doubled in the last seven years, that’s the scariest part, because if you ask any of these representatives who are the me Too boys, they will tell you they don’t know and they don’t want to know. But they go along to get along.

Clint Hostetler Yeah. And that’s been a hard thing. And this is part of that demoralization process that we’ve seen. One thing we’ve noticed in the last two years, and really, I’d say happening for many years prior is this demoralization of, of really the two party system. And now, granted, I don’t want people to misinterpret that. Idaho’s got a fantastic GOP platform. We still have avenues and inroads. We can still do it. And it’s through the GOP. Those fundamentals and ideologies of our GOP platform and true conservative values. Really? That’s the recipe. Nationwide. Um, of course, apart from the big thing, which is repentance, right? The second Chronicles seven fourteen. Um, getting back to God, who’s established our inalienable rights. ET cetera. ET cetera. And why we’ve been blessed up to a certain point. Um, but there is a demoralization and a disillusionment or disenfranchisement with this two party system. And you saw it to the point where you talked about earlier, a specific, you know, male specifically or white males people can cite. And once again, that, you know, triggers many other people. But the reality is, is there was a lot of people that said, you know what? To heck with them, to heck with them all because they’re looking at the federal level and they’re saying, you know, it doesn’t matter who we send up there, it’s a machine. They’re going to be compromised. They’re going to go up there, they’re going to make money. They’re going to go along to get along because, you know, and then you see that here. Well, I gotta stay in the state House to do good things. But I gotta, you know, I, I can’t die on every hill and grant it. Some of that may be true, but the big battles have to. You have to plant the flag. You have to stand. And if you’re booted out, at least you went out on the right path. But we saw so many people hold their nose and vote Democrat or vote independent or didn’t vote altogether. That is the enemy’s plan. Because in his eyes, and really, I think in a lot of ways, and this is I always look at things philosophically back first and then I, then I hone into the details is we’re kind of being corralled into these two false paradigms. You see it with a lot of issues, right? You’re either Black Lives Matter and Antifa or you’re a whole police state, right? You’re either a Arminianism or you’re Calvinism. You’re either Palestine or you’re Israel. The media foments these reactions, they’re narratives. And we’re given these two false dichotomies that don’t have to exist. But if we get back to the root, the philosophical underpinnings, are moral fiber and really get back to, once again engagement on the civil level by those who know they need to do it. We can correct the ship. How do we do that? Is now the question once again, in a time and a place where people are trying to afford gas. They’re trying to afford their mortgage, their groceries, and it’s only going to get worse from here. And I hate to say it. What do we do? How do we get people? This is a call to action, a clarion call to action that the true conservative values and people that want to get up there and throw bombs, even when it’s tough and hard. Now you can do that gracefully. You can have open discourse with people. You can find inroads together. But we’ve been so polarized as a nation, and because of that, we’ve built bigger, higher walls in between. And all we do is lob bombs over each side. We have to, as a people start to realize that there is a path forward, but it comes with civil discussion, reliance on on facts and truth, you know, which is hard to find these days. I mean, for the first time in history, we have a Supreme Court justice who says she can’t define what a a woman is. And she’s been on record saying she’s where she’s at because she’s a woman of color, but she can’t define what a woman is. She’s dictating the most crucial laws and policies and future of our nation. Where do we go from here? So I’ll give you one example. I two years ago when I was running, I got a call from a gal. She was a starts yelling at me right away. She’s, she’s pro-choice and, and, and I’m pro-life, Christian conservative. And she starts yelling at me. I’m like, whoa, whoa, where’s your tolerance? Right? I’ve kind of thrown it back on her and jestful way. And we have this discussion. We talk for a good hour. At the end of that hour, she says, you know what, Clint? I would vote for you if I could, but I’m a Democrat and I don’t live in your district. Now, of course, the first thing I want to say was like, why the heck are you calling me and harassing me? But we had a great conversation and we agreed on so many things, but she said I would vote for you. Now, this is a person who knows I would, uh, I’m pro-life and I would vote. I voted against prop one. Always will. But here we had some great conversations. And it goes back to what I mentioned earlier. There is a true group of people that are liberally minded in the sense of classic liberalism of fiscal, um, you know, smart fiscal sound policy, uh, live your life, I’ll live mine adherence to the Constitution and family values, not the radical, uh, decay of progressivism, but in her mind, this is the party she now has been corralled into this progressive party that’s been hijacked. So we need now more than ever to break free from these false paradigms in Idaho specifically, and get back to saying, let’s have the discussions, but we need to be rooted firmly, in fact, economic precedent. Um, you know, get back to what made our, our once again, our community safe and our families. You know, thriving and successful. Now to to land this plane, I will quote an apologist who says, we have our feet firmly planted in midair. That’s where we’re at. Let’s listen to this. Justice Ketanji Brown, you know what is a woman? We don’t even know what a woman is anymore. And this is, of course, all ideological subversion. But here we are.

Bob Neugebauer Well, I’m not sure everything is ideological subversion. I think a lot of the subversion, uh, takes place in our own government, uh, halls. And I see that happening. I spent many years walking those halls talking with representatives. Uh, in fact, I did go up to one representative asked him, uh, if he ever read the state constitution. He did not. And I asked, why are you here? Passing laws for the people if you don’t know where we stand and where our Constitution is. So the problem is not just the education of our children, but the education of those who are running the governments. Uh, I watched as we lost five, six, seven, eight representatives who were very conservative in this last election. Very, very disappointed in that. Um, but then again, there’s a reason for it. We have had a push by the corporate world to take this state over for the last twenty years. And I bring this up because I do all the time, knowing the history of Idaho and spending time reading about it and having been involved in what I have been involved in for the last fifteen, eighteen years. Um, I understand why they’re doing it. When you look at our governor who used to run IAC for twenty years. The man is a corporate entity, has

Clint Hostetler Yes.

Bob Neugebauer always been very wealthy family, thirty three thousand acres of land, probably worth one hundred million. Maybe more. Not sure. Just depends on how you value things. Now, is that a man of the people? No. You can see him with a chainsaw in his hand, but that doesn’t mean anything. Aside from the fact that he knows how to run a chainsaw, maybe.

Clint Hostetler Yes.

Bob Neugebauer So

Clint Hostetler Yes.

Bob Neugebauer when you come down to it, net net, um, the people that they are bringing in, uh, they, if they are too conservative, they’re shuffled right out as quickly because of the money. Money

Clint Hostetler Yes.

Bob Neugebauer is what makes the world go round and it makes the politics go around in Idaho. Anybody who thinks any different is just plain dumb.

Clint Hostetler I. I agree one hundred percent. One the money perpetuates everything we’ve talked to up to this point, right? It’s dictating our family scenarios, the ability for people to actually be engaged and involved. What happens up at the state level, I will I will agree with everything you said one hundred percent, and I’ll kind of build off that, if you don’t mind. Bob, uh, you mentioned the education of those in there. I will also mention the experience. And you, you, uh, listed little as a, as a, as a perfect example, I akey background, corporation background. It’s not about the people and it’s always got to come back to the people. Um, I, I, I’ve talked about this idea years back when I was running, I was trying to look at really people say we’re an oligarchy or an autocracy or all these different examples of what we are as a nation. And I call us a corporatocracy, right? We are a collusion. It’s really what we have in, uh, in, uh, China. Uh, big government and big corporations are one entity. They have a facade of a free market, you know, capitalistic structure. But when those levers are controlled, does the free market exist? I’d say the free market is pretty much almost dead except for the small businesses. And now, granted, there are many small businesses within certain industries that are dictated how they operate from the top down. So this corporate I used to, you know, argue when I was a sole conservative with my buddies who were liberal back in California. You know, I used to argue big business over big government because you had the power of the purse. You could pick and choose which companies you like based on their philosophy and how they operated, etc., etc.. Big government gets involved. It becomes bloated and inefficient, expensive, um, all these things. But now once again, exactly what you said we have. They knew what they needed to do. They need to inject themselves into government. And so we have the corporatocracy, which always disenfranchises the people. When I was up in the legislature for two years. I realized there’s four types of legislators up there. It gets back to your original point. There are those who are up there because they’re puppets, and they’ve been funneled money from different entities, whether it’s IAC or different industries, uh, you know, County, whatever it is, they’re up there to do the bidding of their, you know, puppet masters for the most part. Then you’ve got the people that are up there to preserve their own kingdoms, right? They, they’re in the industry. They have massive amounts of farming or dairy or whatever it is, you name it. They’re there to preserve their own kingdoms. They want to have a say in the legislation and the policies and how things are maneuver. So they control, you know, their areas, their districts and their kingdoms are secure for their families while the people lose out. Then you have the power structure. They’re there to maintain the the status quo, the machine, they dictate which legislation gets through. They collude from one side of the building to the other and. And let us all believe that we have a say, oh, this. I’ll get you. This bill passed through the House. But meanwhile they’ve got a deal on the back end on the other side that says, hey, we’re going to kill this bill. Uh, you can blame me. I’ll blame you. We’re both winners in our side. The people don’t aren’t the wiser. And then you’ve got the fourth type of legislator legislator, which all of us claim we are. We’re those who are there to represent the people, the families, the small businesses. And we’re there to do what’s right. Now. Every single person will say, I’m that one. But is that the case? I think we both know it’s not. And in fact, I’d say and, you know, I’ll probably offend a lot of people, but the vast majority is the top three. And there’s a dwindling minute class that is type four. And it’s what you said. They get shuffled out really quickly. Look at my three counterpart, great legislators down here, Representative Leavitt, who probably did the most work. Uh, Senator Zidoval the heart and soul for the people. Literally a people, Senator, as she claimed. And then Senator Cole, the money that was spent against us from industries, from big business, from the establishment. It was it was astounding what we took. And we see it happening at the federal level. But to see it happen now in the state, just to say how close we are to the state going under and why we need more of those type four legislators in the building.

Bob Neugebauer I don’t disagree. I think you’ve got the plan that they all expect to execute right on target. Uh, and they are doing it at a more rapid pace than I thought they were. When I look at what’s going on with the taxation policies of this state, granted, we still have some of the lowest taxes in the country. Probably we’re number somewhere around forty three is my guess. Uh, but my point here is that when you see the growth patterns that have taken place in this state over the last ten years, they are pretty phenomenal. And what is happening now is, I think, will create a crisis at some point. And I say that because we will be invaded by the techies. We will have those people come in here who are from the left side of the equation, and they will change the culture of the Treasure Valley. When I came here, there were one hundred and fifty thousand people in the Treasure Valley. Today there are over six hundred thousand. That is the voting block. That’s the block that will change this state. And unfortunately, the more you think about this, the more you can see the patterns that are taking place. Um, you’re one person, but one person does matter because that’s one more vote in favor of changing what’s going on. The unfortunate part is that you have so many that have been in there for so long. You need a shoehorn to get them out. And even then, it’s hard because most of them are stuck to their seats because of the cronyism that takes place in this state. I’ve seen it up close and personal. I know it happens. I give you an example. You talk about when you ran for precinct committeeman. I ran for precinct committeeman three times. I won three times. The first time in my district, I went literally physically to twelve hundred homes. And I tried to talk to as many people as I could. I was going against a very good friend of then Governor Otter. Well, the night before the election, who’s in my neighborhood, walking around talking to the residents. But Governor Otter and Lieutenant Governor Brad Little, they are that worried about me taking that woman out as a precinct committeeman. That has to tell you something.

Clint Hostetler Absolutely, absolutely. I mean, look at what happened recently in our primaries. So, uh, little has spent money against the four of us, uh, twice now. And, um, he, of course, and this is was frustrating from Trump. Trump endorsed little. And what did what happened? We all got, you know, mailers the size of dinner placemats from Brad Little saying, I was endorsed by Trump. And now these are the people I endorse. And guess who was not on that list, right. There is a power structure. Two years ago when I was running, I didn’t think I was going to win. I was up against a heavily establishment candidate. And right before the election, uh, little comes down with her and presents a thirty something million dollar check to one of the local schools. And I said, well, you know, hey, I’m doing what I said I was going to do. You know, it’s in the Lord’s hands. If I win, I win. If I don’t, I don’t. I ended up winning handily. But it’s everything you said. The establishment is going to do what they need to do, and it starts from the top down. Most people don’t understand. When I first got here, as I said, I thought we were the most conservative state in the in the world. And, you know, I thought little was the most conservative governor. Right. And I was coming from California with Gavin Newsom. So quite a juxtaposition. And now here I am, like being attacked by the governor and his PACs and a lot of the other establishment PACs and and even some of the local industry PACs. And I’m like, oh my goodness, what is happening here now? Thankfully, most of those people in those industries, whether it was dairy or farm, they voted for me. Why? Because they they know I represent what they represent. But what we’ve seen at the federal level and specifically here in Idaho, and we’ll just try and shift things back to Idaho is we’re witnessing a massive gaslighting campaign. This is what I’ve noticed because of all these things we’ve discussed up to this point. Again, uh, they’re, they’re the industries, the systems, uh, the institutions, the government is gaslighting the people to tell the people, hey, look, our best interests are really your best interests, right? And we can, we can cite big dairy as an example, right? There was a barrage. And the narrative is what happens if we lose all these employees? What are you going to do? Well, you’re going to pay, you know, twenty dollars for a gallon of milk. Well, guess what? If you look at the top three budgets, health and welfare, education and the criminal system of the courts, uh, you know, these things, we already pay more than twenty dollars a gallon for milk so they can have their workforce. Look at California right now, where many of the dairies that are here came from California. California spends annually Ten dollars billion dollars on illegal immigration. Guess what? Their top three budgets are health and welfare, education and the criminal system. You look at the numbers of illegals. What how they, you know, really pull from the system. They don’t get back in. We’re not even talking about the downstream issues of, you know, the rule of law, the moral issue, uh, legal citizens, sex trafficking, drugs, etcetera, etcetera. But there is a gaslighting thing. So when I talk to people, they’re like, well, you’re against illegal or you’re against immigration. Um, no, I’m not against immigration. I’m against illegal immigration. You don’t realize this is going to destroy you for what? The big dairies are getting corporatized. They’re overleveraged from federal subsidies. They are now addicted to illegal labor. And and and small dairies are going out of business. All that labor is now bleeding into the farmers because it’s expensive to have a H two a worker. So that’s now bleeding into there. But moreover, it’s bleeding into our trades. It’s bleeding into our service and hospitality industries. They. If you look at the, the, uh, the statistics on, on immigrants, what they take out of or on the dole, let alone illegal, it’s astounding. So we are basically cutting off our nose to spite our face. And we’re selling our children’s future and our state and economic security down the road for the benefit of a few at the top, while the rest of us go down. And we all know small businesses are the job creator and drivers of the United States. What we saw during Covid and what we’re witnessing now is massive transfer of wealth that is dwindling, and we are going to now have the haves, the have nots, the proletariat, the bourgeoisie. This is the communist agenda playing out in front of us. And we’re taking part of it because we’re being gaslit by the government, the industries, the establishment.

Bob Neugebauer Talk about Gaslight. If you watched the governor at his commercials on TV as he was running again. Uh, one of his, uh, critical commercials, said I lowered the cost of groceries. Now we have to understand something that he says he lowered the cost of groceries because he lowered the income tax. But that doesn’t come out. And so people think he actually lowered the cost of groceries. Yet when everybody goes to the market, they’re still paying six percent on everything they purchased, and they don’t get all of that money back at the end of the year. And I would bet even if they itemize, they’re not going to get it all back. And that’s the hint here. We’re one of thirteen states that still has a grocery tax. And we have the highest one, which is, you know, it hurts the lowest economic groups. It hurts those who do not have the money to pay for this. You want to know why we have people who are on welfare here? Here’s one of the reasons. It’s no different than the fact that we spend four to five hundred million dollars a year on the health, welfare and education and food for illegals.

Clint Hostetler Yeah.

Bob Neugebauer It’s clear this year they were a little smarter. They took that, and they broke it down into separate sections to try and make it look a little different. But we can see the lies. They never stop. The lies continue and people keep believing them because they are getting gaslit. You’re absolutely right. But how do you get them to understand that?

Clint Hostetler Well,

Bob Neugebauer I mean,

Clint Hostetler yeah.

Bob Neugebauer when Mike. Alright is building a fab for fifteen billion. They only have to pay four hundred million for the taxes on their property because of the legislation that’s there in place. Not only that, they don’t pay sales tax on any of the things they’re buying.

Clint Hostetler Yeah.

Bob Neugebauer Same thing for the data centers. So

Clint Hostetler Yeah,

Bob Neugebauer who’s getting screwed there?

Clint Hostetler Sure.

Bob Neugebauer Well, again, it comes back to the individuals.

Clint Hostetler Yes. And, you know, I used to joke and say, man, the Democrats, all they need is lip service from their leaders. That’s all they all they care about is lip service. Obama. Hope and change. Oh, that’s all we want to hear. Because now we can feel good and put our head back in the sand. We are now to the point where the same thing’s happening here within our own party. We need just we just want to hear the lip service. You. You gave a great example with Governor Little. And of course these corporations, like you said, like, let’s not forget micron was subsidized by, I believe, the Biden administration for, what, almost seven billion dollars? And then they come

Bob Neugebauer Yep.

Clint Hostetler here and get subsidies. And it goes back to your point earlier, what are they bringing in temporary jobs? That’s great. That’s great. But guess what? Those temporary jobs. And then you have permanent jobs that are going to be one a workers, right? They bring in their globalist ideologies that, like you said, the tech employees that are coming in, that it’s already happening, right? With micron, with meta, and with all these data centers, you’re going to have H one A workers. You’re going to have an influx of a radical new culture that does not hold or share our eye, our Idaho values, let alone our constitutional values that we hold dear in our nation. I mean, our governor just did some Diwali celebration. What are we doing here? I was just down in Dallas not too long ago and I thought, oh my gosh, it was Indians and Muslims. And once again, like, and it’s sad that I even have to, you know, go back and clarify. I’m not against any group of people. But at the same time, we need to take care of our Idaho citizens, our legal ones first and our families. Let’s stick with that right now. Right? Let’s put a moratorium on immigration. Let’s close our borders, so to speak. Let’s get back to the fundamentals to put our children first, our families first. You know, instead of these corporation tax breaks for these corporations that are bleeding us dry for our water, our land, our energy, and are going to rake us under the coals with their ideologies. Because once again, us social liberalism always devours fiscal conservatism. So we’re getting this quick glimpse, a glimpse in the pan, and it comes at the cost of our future. So people, like you said, how do we wake them up? It’s got to be up to the people. We cannot legislate morality and we cannot legislate, um, activity or engagement. But what more is it going to take for people to say what is going on here?

Bob Neugebauer Well, and I think a lot of the problem lies in the fact that the word does not get out, which is one of the reasons we started this podcast and are going to go to a regular radio show. Because today, in today’s world, uh, if the dairymen don’t want anybody on the air talking about the problem with illegals, they have commercials run on that program and say, don’t do that. Because if you talk about, you know, you’re not not supposed to do that same thing with, uh, with places like micron. Micron’s already applied for five hundred and seventy three visas, H-1b visas. Does anybody know that? No, because nobody wants to talk about it because micron buys up the advertising also. So therefore they get hindered. Ergo, one reason to have an internet radio station that’s free from any any possible interference from the big corporate world. I would prefer to deal with the small businesses if indeed we ever get to that point. And I find that fifty seven percent of the of the businesses here in Idaho are small businesses. They are important. I have a lot of them up here in the New Meadows Council area that I live in. And yeah, They have a right to, uh, be able to survive and prosper, just like the big corporations. But they don’t get subsidized like the big corporations do. And that’s what really gets me upset. In fact, it pisses me off to no end.

Clint Hostetler Yeah, it. Well, it’s the corporation. It’s the money issue like you talked about. And I mean, even with. We need more voices like yourself, right? There’s a few good ones around in our state, but they get drowned out. They don’t have the marketing cash. And, you know, I know in the advertising, graphic design, web design business, I mean, AI is taking over. But at the end of the day, you have to market yourself. And I’ve had clients that are like, hey, times are tough. We saw during Covid, right? Um, you know, there’s a reason why certain big box stores were kept open. The dispensaries, uh, the liquor stores, the casinos. But mom and pops breakfast shop that’s barely holding on was closed down. There’s a reason this is by design. How do we stop that? People have to get engaged. They need to listen to more of these true conservative voices. They need to step up. Now, granted, then they need to vote, right? Our voter turnout is is minuscule. Really. Now, the big issue comes with what we saw at the national level back in twenty twenty. And of course, recently with some very sketchy votes popping up again. Um, once that election system is is compromised, there’s no turning back. My cousin. Uh, you know, my family, you know, had a Marina on the Puget Sound. My my cousins were all fishermen. He still fishes up there. He lives in Long Branch, Lake Bay area. Great conservatives has watched that state go downhill. Years ago, he tells me about the election for governor, that they did a recount. Not once, not twice, but three times until they got the Democrat governor. Since then, the state went to mail in ballots only. What do you think that does to an election system? We need to be ever more vigilant and secure our borders, secure our election system, and get people engaged to right this ship.

Bob Neugebauer I don’t disagree with you. The problem is getting that accomplished because every time somebody comes up and says, I’d like to redo that count, they say, oh, I can’t do that. Well, why? Well, because we’re in charge. We don’t think that’s necessary. I’ve seen that happen too many times. Um, I don’t know how you get the people to rise up. And I’m afraid that they might be just a little too timid to do that. Uh, nobody wants to get involved anymore. I was asked two or three times to run for election here for governor. I said absolutely not. I says, it’s not a place where I could win. And that’s because of what goes on within the corporate world. They run it all. I know them all. Been involved with them all. And there is not a one of them that doesn’t pay for what they get in tax breaks in all kinds of dispensations and rules and regulations that make it easier for them to do business. However, the guy who wants to open a gun shop or wants to open a small grocery store in a place like Council or New Meadows, oh my God, the things that they have to go through to get an okay to do their business. I have been in business here. I had three businesses here in Idaho, all in the building trades. My kids were involved in them. And instead of hiring people who were illegals, I hired Probies who had just been let out of jail. That made more sense to me because these are people who really need rehabilitation. But I had a good workforce and it didn’t cost anybody else any money.

Clint Hostetler Well, that was probably a lot harder for you. It was. It was a moral decision and a really an ethical decision and a logical decision that you made that we need a lot more people to do. Well, when the economics and those who control the economics really make it hard to do that, you see it less and less. Right. Once again, money controls everything. Now back to the, you know, the industries, right? Like there’s a couple industries that came out and endorsed my opponent, who was a radical Democrat up until the point he threw his hat in the ring and adopted, changed his whole platform, his talking points, his ideology couldn’t erase the history of everything that says, I’m a radical leftist, right? So I lambasted him with that. When he came out with all the establishment Republican talking points. But, um, the reality is, is there’s so many good people still in the dairies and the farm, uh, industry that really are just looking for help. They want to preserve their family. They want to keep their family farm. They don’t want to be beholden to the federal government. But those at the top made the decision. Now, you talked about when people get involved, I don’t want people to black think I’m black pilled or or I wanted black pill. Anybody that. There’s no hope the. But you look at someone like. Said the great Senator Zidoval, who stood firm on her convictions. What happened to her husband, their livelihood. It wasn’t about just taking her out and removing her from her voting. And by the way, she didn’t get to vote on one illegal bill because they didn’t get through the House. Right. They they got stopped. She didn’t get to vote on any of them, but she was target number one, because they saw her as the epicenter of the conservative movement in the Magic Valley. What happened from that point? They said, we don’t just want to get rid of her. We want to destroy her. And so what are those top few dairy guys said, you know what? We’re going to go after her husband’s business. And I don’t know if you know the story they went after to where he worked and said, we’re not going to buy your product anymore unless you get rid of Tom Zuiderveld. And it’s nothing to do with Tom. We love Tom. He’s been a great employee for decades, you know, worked in our industry before this. But you know what? We don’t like his wife’s politics and what they do. They got rid of all his contracts. It completely wiped out all their income. So that is what we are up against. And once again, what did she always cited? And we know one of the founding fathers was it life uh, sacred honor and fortune. Fortune, sacred honor in your life. That is what we are now back to pledging to me doing this. It’s grueling. It’s excruciating. I’m not having to be a professional, or at least know everything about everything that comes across my desk within three short months, without any staff and barely any pay. And I’m not gonna complain about that. I didn’t get into it for the pay. I got into it because I have my small business here. I love my son. His future. Our neighbors. Idaho way of life. This is our home now and I’m fighting for it. But it is a tough thing to get up here. And it has been hard because the people that reach out for the most part, are the ones that hate you. And I know they’re coming for me and that’s fine. I’m going to be alright. The Lord’s protecting me. My wife’s amazing rock and I’m not sitting here trying to play a victim. Please don’t understand that I’m not. Um. It’s a blessing and a privilege and an honor to do what I’m doing. And I’ve now been voted in for my second term, and I’ll do it the same way. Um, because I’m about the people, the small businesses, the small farms, dairies and the future and economic security of our state and our sovereignty. But it is a battle against everything that you’ve talked about the corporatocracy, the money. And, um, I am going to continue to knock doors, continue to talk to people, continue to work with the people that disagree with me and even the people that may be squishy in our party and say, this is what needs to be done, and we have to have the conversations. And I’ve made great inroads. I was able to pass legislation through the House, get it across the governor’s desk from the Senate side as well. And that pushed d e I out of our medical industry. There are some great bills because I worked with people, I listened, and people know I’m sincere. And what we need to get back to is accountability and accountability and trust is from sincerity and authenticity. Right. So people know they’re not going to agree with me. Uh, many of the times, but they know I’ll listen and they know I’m going to stick to my word. And I had a conversation in the gym this morning with a gal who’s completely other end of the spectrum. And she, we talked and she says, just show up, Clint. You know, um, I like you. We have great conversations. She knows who I am. She says, I know we won’t end up on the same side of the. But you know what? It goes a long way. We need to get back to those conversations. It. Civil discourse and discussions that matter.

Bob Neugebauer Oh, I don’t disagree with you at all. I think you’re right on target. Uh, you know, when, uh, when, uh, when they went after her and I found out what the whole story was. I stopped buying milk. Well, what would happen if everybody did that? Might give them a lesson. The problem is, we don’t do that anymore. Go back to when I was in my twenties and 30s they did that.

Clint Hostetler Yeah.

Bob Neugebauer They boycott was there and it was a real boycott. Uh, and it wasn’t just the left that did it. The right also did it. If you had something that was a problem, you went out and you fought for it. Today it’s all about money and it’s all about who has the influence. Because if you look at most of the governments in this country, and I’m talking about even the smaller governments, there are very few that have autonomy and

Clint Hostetler Yes.

Bob Neugebauer are able to make decisions that are fruitful for the people that they serve. And I see that after I moved from Meridian up to New Meadows, New Meadows is a mountain town. There are only five hundred people in the city, in the town. And I get involved here. I mean, I sit on the Planning and Zoning Commission. In fact, I’m chairman. Why? Because I’m concerned and I care. And yes, I’m on the board of directors. I was on the board of directors for six years. And I will again, because I’m concerned. We need people like yourself to talk. People your age, not my age to get concerned and get involved. And until that happens, nothing will change.

Clint Hostetler Yes. Going. You mentioned boycotts right before the Corporatocracy had its claws into the entity when you boycotted it. It changed things, right. Goes back to that big business versus big government paradigm that used to exist. Um, is you have the power of the purse, which meant something. You know, nowadays we look at, you know, you you you boycotted something and you spoke out and they got a hint of it real quick because it was their bottom line. Nowadays, you look at companies like Disney or ESPN and some of these other corporations that have been pushing woke propaganda groomer material coming after our kids. You’ve got their CEOs and their their marketing specialists talking about how we need more LGBTQ plus stuff. And we don’t care if the people don’t like it. They’re to the point. They’ve got the money, they’ve got the audience. They don’t mind taking the hit on the bottom line because they know guys like us are dying breed. If they can indoctrinate the next generation, that money’s coming back anyway, and they’ve got all the power and influence now, so they’re willing to shave off a little bit of their money for their long term money and more importantly, their long term goals of power and control. And that is something getting back to the people. People don’t do it. Many reasons why they’re disillusioned, right? They’ve been disenfranchised and they’re like, the hell with it. But people like their comfortable lives. We love our comfortable lives, and it’s inconvenient to change things, right? And when money comes into play, too, when we’re going to buy milk, my my wife waits until we can get the organic stuff on sale for two bucks a gallon, right? So we buy a few of those and we drink it, but we, we, because we’re on a tight household here, but we make wise decisions. And it’s not so much about a comfortable life. It’s about surviving and doing the right thing. So we need to get away from what might be inconvenient and for our comfort and realize that the future is at stake.

Bob Neugebauer I agree. I think you’ve hit the nail on the head many times during this conversation. Um, is there anything else you’d like to discuss? Something that hits you hard? I mean, I’ve been through some of the things that I, I’ve been talking about, um, because I want to Steve and I want to do something different here, uh, in terms of this radio show that we’re going to be hosting. Uh, and that’s to get people like yourself and others who are of the same ilk to come on and talk about these things, because there is no other real venue to do it on. And we found that out. I know because I’ve been on the radio, uh, with a program, uh, for sixteen years. In fact, I had my own radio show at one time on natural medicines and naturopathy. So I understand the business. And I also spent thirty seven years on Wall Street, and I understand that even more so. And where things come from, from that aspect, um, I think we can change it. I think that’s why we’re doing what we’re doing. Uh, and I think it’s people like yourself, uh, and Gleneida and others who have been there at the forefront of this battle and continue to fight valiantly. Even though you have this rug that is continually being pulled out from underneath you. So believe me, I understand it as well as you can possibly understand it. Having been in the same arena and in the same position. So, um, I’m looking forward to having you and, uh, more of your ilk, more people who actually care about the state and not the state of how the state is going to screw us again, because that’s what they’ve been doing for quite some time. And I just, I’m not sure that anyone’s listening, but we want to get them to listen. So we’ll see what we can do with this in the future. Uh, but we’d love to have you back on again, uh, in a more regular basis because you seem to have, uh, the right tenure to deal and talk about what’s really wrong with the state and how it can be fixed. There aren’t a lot of people willing to do that anymore. They saw what happened to somebody like Gleneida. They saw what happened to four or five other representatives where the money came down on them, and it wasn’t raining money. It was raining a lot of bad advertisements for them. Nobody likes to see that happen. Nobody

Clint Hostetler Yeah.

Bob Neugebauer wants to deal with that. That’s that’s the worst of the worst. Um, for me, at my age, I don’t care. What are you going to do to me, you know?

Clint Hostetler Yeah. Well,

Bob Neugebauer You know it.

Clint Hostetler you know, there’s a there’s a lot there and I appreciate that. And it’d be a pleasure again to and like I said, I look at things philosophically, um, you know, there is one thing that any politician hates is when they, their power position is in jeopardy. It’s amazing when you know, you start getting attacked and mailers come out. How many people start stressing? Oh my gosh, you know, maybe I need to change things. Well, that’s the first problem. We’re we’re a representative form of government. We got elected because of our ideas and our values and our integrity, if we have any. And we are there not to dictate to our people, but to lead. They put us there for a reason and to lead and to guide and to direct. And if they disagree, that’s great. We can have those conversations. But we are in really what I’ve said for a while, and I believe it as a Christian, and I’m not here to set up a theocracy, it’ll never work, uh, until the Lord comes back. Um, but I’m here to, to establish, reestablish and focus on the founding fundamental principles that are our founding fathers gave us here. And I think that we are in a spiritual battle, one that manifests or reveals itself politically and socially like never before. Why? Because those are the two mechanisms now to completely gain control over everything. So if we don’t remove God out of our Constitution in a vacuum, right? Government comes in and fills that void. Uh, socially, we are in big trouble culturally, socially, politically, it’s kind of right downstream from the social. So we’re watching this happen. So there’s a lot of I will be, I will say I’m, I’m very encouraged down here. I want again, it’s not just because I won. So everything’s okay in my in my district, but we have got so many good citizen soldiers down in my neck of the woods that fought hard for conservative values, fought hard against prop one. Um, there are a lot of people like myself, political refugees, as will say that left states. They know why they left it. They know what they don’t want. It’s that old saying that I I’m going to, you know, take from somebody. It says, I’ve seen this scary movie. I recognize the opening scenes. I believe that our state is being filled with people like us. Even if you’ve been here your whole life or not, that see it, recognize it, and are going to say, heck no, we’re not going anywhere else. And so I’m very encouraged by that. And there are some great legislators in office now, as I said, I look at things philosophically. That’s how I do things first. And if something, you know, tickles that bone, I dig in. There’s some geniuses up there when it comes to finances and money that can parse out some of these things that have never been my forte. Right. But I, I surround myself with them. And we have some great, great legislators up there that, you know of probably better than I do. And so I’m encouraged that I do see a way forward in Idaho. And it and I’m encouraged that you’re stepping up to the plate. You guys are stepping up to the plate. We need more. And it’s really simple for the people. First talk to people. Hey, did you know there’s a great new radio thing? They’re talking about things you can you can discuss it, you can take it with a grain of salt. But we’re now going to get a different view from the legacy media, the compromised media in all of our little districts. And we get to talk to people for real easy. Just talk to people. Tell them about these new resources, get engaged, get informed, vote the right way, get the right people in and, uh, and pray, right? Like at the end of the day. So there’s an avenue for it. I’m encouraged. And I thank you guys for this opportunity to be on. It’s a privilege. You have a wealth of information that I could glean as we move forward here in Idaho, because I’m a newbie when it comes to the legislature and it is a matrix. Um, so like I said, I appreciate what you bring to the table just as much as myself or Glenn or anybody else. It’s you that’s going to do the hard lifting to and, and all the folks that have come and supported us and all of our conservative causes, we are to the point where we’re going to we’re going to rise up. We’re going to push back.

Bob Neugebauer Well, I appreciate you coming on. I thank you very much for your time, and I assure you that we’ll probably be giving you a call very shortly to see if we can’t get you on again. So maybe you’ll just be able to keep some time for us on the side. Uh, we’re, we’re going to, uh, try and give conservatism a real platform to work from. Um, we have, uh, gotten to the point now where, uh, we’re almost ready to go live. Uh, you’ll find us on most of the apps that are out there. And, uh, if you go to, uh, iradio dot com, you’ll see just what we’ve done so far, what our philosophies are, uh, and how we intend to go forward. So, uh, I look forward to working with you again. Thank you very much for your time.

Clint Hostetler Likewise. Absolutely. And again, I look forward to the next time. And you have a great day. And God bless Idaho.